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Tony Vis's avatar

Thanks, Tryg. I recall the kind of encouragement from church adults in my life that you speak about. I remember the pastor being respected, particularly by my own father. Dad didn’t withhold criticism, but he had 20 times as many positive things to say as negative. I saw that. It fed me and encouraged me to consider seminary and pastoral ministry. Others in that small, rural, Northwest Iowa church provided encouragement as well. You are called, they said. I didn’t receive financial help from the church, but I believe my first year of seminary in 1969-70 cost just $50 a Quarter/$150 per year. It was a bargain! A decade later when my brother, his wife, and two children moved to Michigan for seminary at age 30, tuition was considerably higher. A family from the small town church where we grew up paid his tuition in full EVERY year.

We won’t be going back to those years. It is a different time and different times call for different approaches. Yet, there may be things to learn from those days—more to unlearn, I suspect. I have this vivid memory of an all-church grocery shower to welcome the pastor’s family home after summer vacation. Perhaps a summer bonus to cover some or all of the vacation costs. Little things can say a great deal.

Okay, I’ll stop with the reminiscing. My point is that one way to raise up young people for ministry from your church might be to demonstrate often that the role of pastor, teacher, and caregiver is valued.

Trygve Johnson's avatar

Tony, Thank you for this — genuinely. What you've offered here is not mere reminiscing; it is witness. And there is a difference.

Your father's habit of speaking twenty affirmations for every correction is something worth sitting with. That is not simply good parenting or good pastoring — it is a theology of the person, enacted daily, without fanfare. He saw something in you worth calling forward, and he said so. Repeatedly. That is no small thing.

And the family that paid your brother's full tuition — year after year — for a seminary student with a wife and two children. That is the church being the church. Not as institution, but as community of genuine investment in one another's callings. It moves me to read it.

You are right, of course — we are not going back. Nor should we try. But your instinct that there is more to unlearn than to learn from those years strikes me as wise and honest. Some of what made those moments possible was particular to a time and place. But the impulse beneath them — to name, affirm, and materially support what we say we value — that impulse is not era-specific. It is available to us now.

Your closing point lands with real clarity: if we want young people to consider a life of pastoral ministry, we ought to demonstrate — visibly, concretely, and often — that we regard it as a life worth living. Worth choosing. Worth sacrificing for. The grocery shower, the tuition check, the father's steady stream of encouragement — all of it said the same thing: *this matters, and so do you.*

That we can still do.

With gratitude for the depth you bring to this conversation.

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